07-02-97 20:05:06 <Stryder> Wow that was an ordeal.....
07-02-97 20:05:11 <caveman99> hiya.
07-02-97 20:05:13 <Stryder> Just to get on I mean.
07-02-97 20:05:17 <MADodel> UncleGrim: Looks fine I just added the d/l site and website URL at the bottom. I plan to finish up the June issue tonight, and your review will be in it.
07-02-97 20:05:18 <Stryder> Hello all.
07-02-97 20:05:28 <UncleGrim> I only see 9 servers on WEBBnet right now
07-02-97 20:05:38 <UncleGrim> MAD, thanks :-)
07-02-97 20:05:51 <UncleGrim> now I'll need a copy of my 2nd published work :-)
07-02-97 20:06:20 <UncleGrim> I never got a copy of my first published work (a poem for the dorm newspaper last year)--that issue went out to only about 1/3 of the halls and mine wasn't one of them
07-02-97 20:06:21 <UncleGrim> :-(
07-02-97 20:06:44 * Takbar doesn't "work" :)
07-02-97 20:06:49 <MADodel> Well I'll send you the newsletter. html and inf versions
07-02-97 20:06:50 <MADodel> :-)
07-02-97 20:06:55 <SunnyBear> the internet route to mandie is really fouled up... on hop 17 it was almost 3000ms
07-02-97 20:06:57 <UncleGrim> okay, thanks :-)
07-02-97 20:07:41 <McMuffin> :-)
07-02-97 20:07:46 <trixer> ahhh an Irishman
07-02-97 20:07:52 <trixer> 07-02-97 20:07:53 <biscuit> LOL trixer
07-02-97 20:07:56 <McMuffin> <:-) <-- Jack in the Box?
07-02-97 20:08:02 <SunnyBear> Alter.net lost 3 of it's hubs two days ago and the entire east backbone has been fouled since..
07-02-97 20:08:04 <biscuit> <----- freak in the channel
07-02-97 20:08:07 * UncleGrim is part Irish, so yes
07-02-97 20:08:15 <UncleGrim> but wouldn't Mc be Scotish?
07-02-97 20:08:21 <UncleGrim> O'Muffin would be Irish :-)
07-02-97 20:08:33 <SunnyBear> Mac is Scottish
07-02-97 20:08:34 <biscuit> ptackbar is swedish
07-02-97 20:08:43 <UncleGrim> biscuit, you mean FREAK in the channel, don't you?
07-02-97 20:08:47 <SunnyBear> Mc is Irish
07-02-97 20:09:01 <UncleGrim> oic
07-02-97 20:09:13 * caveman99 noticed the alter.net problems. dropping connection every 20 minutes or so. Plus UUnet is farked all over as well :-/
07-02-97 20:09:25 <MADodel> Anyone know the url for IBM's software choice site? I've been there before, but now can't find it anymore.
07-02-97 20:09:26 <runningbe> there was this rabbit and bear taking a dump in the woods
07-02-97 20:09:40 <BunnyEars> Cave: they lost 3 of their hubs 2 days ago.. it's been farked since..
07-02-97 20:09:59 <runningbe> the bear says to the rabbit "Do you have trouble with sh*t sticking to your fur?"
07-02-97 20:10:06 <runningbe> the rabbit said no
07-02-97 20:10:17 <____> somebody stepped on me :)
07-02-97 20:10:20 <runningbe> so the bear picked up the rabbit and wiped his ass with him
07-02-97 20:10:23 <runningbe>
07-02-97 20:10:29 <BunnyEars> ROFL
07-02-97 20:10:30 <UncleGrim> oookay
07-02-97 20:11:13 <____> gotta go :(
07-02-97 20:11:14 <____> later guys
07-02-97 20:11:20 <____> sorry I miseed the meeting
07-02-97 20:11:29 <MADodel> What meeting?
07-02-97 20:11:41 <UncleGrim> hmm, ki7rw just insulted me in an e-mail
07-02-97 20:11:46 <MADodel> Is this the SPG fan club meeting?
07-02-97 20:11:48 <BunnyEars> the one _____ missed I guess.... :)
07-02-97 20:11:55 <UncleGrim> said he didn't know I was such a youngster
07-02-97 20:12:17 <BunnyEars> MAD: carefulll you'll start another jugular popping riot..
07-02-97 20:12:20 <MADodel> Stryder when did you get here?
07-02-97 20:12:24 <UncleGrim> heh
07-02-97 20:19:33 <MHA1> Did anyone here get to the TeamOS/2 dinner/reception at PCExpo?
07-02-97 20:27:23 *** Log Activated #VOICE (F:\TCPIP\GTIRC\#VOICE.log)
07-02-97 20:27:24 *** The topic for #voice is: Promote OS/2 Discussion Group
07-02-97 20:27:24 *** Topic set by SunnyBear on Wed Jul 2 20:00:27 1997
07-02-97 20:27:24 *** Names on #voice: MADlog Mount @MADodel UncleGrim @trixer @SunnyBear MHA1 caveman99
07-02-97 20:27:25 *** #voice Mode is (+ )
07-02-97 20:27:48 <MHA1> How much do they get you for the Choice sub?
07-02-97 20:28:03 <UncleGrim> what ports are available on WEBBnet servers? Just 6667?
07-02-97 20:28:21 <trixer> unc: irc.suntrix.com does 6660 - 6669
07-02-97 20:28:24 <MADodel> I get the alerts also. I can't remeber where I saw that. I'd like to know how much it costs, but the site says to contact your IBM rep. :-(
07-02-97 20:28:25 <UncleGrim> cool
07-02-97 20:28:47 <MHA1> don't have an IBM rep. Most SOHO's don't!
07-02-97 20:29:01 <MADodel> MHA1: I heard somewhere $5/month, but I can't beleive IBM would only charge that.
07-02-97 20:29:03 <trixer> libra and irc.directone.com.au does 6661 - 7000
07-02-97 20:29:08 <SunnyBear> MHA1: mandie's domain is resolving but her server is not reachable at this point..
07-02-97 20:29:18 <MADodel> MHA1: yeah it's typical of IBM.
07-02-97 20:29:58 <MHA1> well, after what I heard last Weds night about OS/2's future, I'm not too happy with IBM.
07-02-97 20:30:07 <SunnyBear> Giskard: welcome
07-02-97 20:30:24 <Giskard> Thanks. I finally made it.
07-02-97 20:30:24 <UncleGrim> hey Giskard
07-02-97 20:30:28 <Giskard> Sup?
07-02-97 20:30:38 <MADodel> MHA1: what is IBM doing now?
07-02-97 20:30:49 <MHA1> what are they NOT doing is more like it.
07-02-97 20:31:07 <MHA1> Bluebird is the future. But that doesn't help us.
07-02-97 20:31:24 <Giskard> MHA!: What do you mean by that?
07-02-97 20:31:25 <UncleGrim> foolishly embracing NT, foolishly embracing Java, but selling OS/2 to banks
07-02-97 20:31:52 * MADodel wants Warp Server 4.1 or anything with SMP that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
07-02-97 20:31:55 <UncleGrim> in a way I can't blame SPG for ditching OS/2
07-02-97 20:31:59 *** #voice Mode change: +o VoiceBot by trixer
07-02-97 20:32:00 <Giskard> Did any of you catch Esther's article in "Extended Attributes" this month?
07-02-97 20:32:02 <MHA1> That's about it, UncleGrim.
07-02-97 20:32:22 <MADodel> UG: I can understand their decision. It's the way they did it that sucks.
07-02-97 20:32:29 <UncleGrim> *nod*
07-02-97 20:32:36 <MHA1> Yeah - leaving us out in the cold.
07-02-97 20:32:51 <UncleGrim> well they'll be eaten alive by Corel Draw, PhotoPaint, PhotoShop, etc
07-02-97 20:32:57 <MHA1> Giskard: what'd the artilce say?
07-02-97 20:33:02 *** #voice Mode change: +o mandie by trixer
07-02-97 20:33:03 <mandie> hello
07-02-97 20:33:03 <UncleGrim> mandie!!!
07-02-97 20:33:07 <trixer> mandie!!!
07-02-97 20:33:08 <mandie> bad storm here :(
07-02-97 20:33:11 <MADodel> I bought cw 2.0 2 months ago planning to u/g to 3.0. I have alot of company on that score.
07-02-97 20:33:12 <mandie> dON :)
07-02-97 20:33:14 <mandie> trixer: thx :)
07-02-97 20:33:15 <Giskard> Take a look at TrueSpectra Photo>Graphics PRO. I now I am now. It looks nice.
07-02-97 20:33:15 <MHA1> hi ya, mandie!
07-02-97 20:33:48 <MADodel> mandie: where the hell ya been?
07-02-97 20:33:49 <mandie> mha1!!! hi :)
07-02-97 20:33:49 <mandie> mad: picking up tree limbs :(...we got hit bad
07-02-97 20:33:49 <MADodel> Giskard: I ordered it today. :-)
07-02-97 20:33:49 <UncleGrim> !rule 3
07-02-97 20:33:49 <UncleGrim> :-)
07-02-97 20:33:49 <VoiceBot> Rule not found.
07-02-97 20:33:50 <mandie> uncle: hehe
07-02-97 20:34:00 <UncleGrim> quiet bot, I wasn't really talking to you
07-02-97 20:34:02 <MHA1> mandie - as long as you are okay. Did the house get hurt?
07-02-97 20:34:13 <MADodel> mandie: you ok?
07-02-97 20:34:17 <SunnyBear> mandie: I'm gonna ride a client on yer server to try and keep you connected..
07-02-97 20:34:25 <mandie> mha1: nope, but our antenna, which we don't use anyway, is hanging from our cable wires :(
07-02-97 20:34:32 <UncleGrim> eww
07-02-97 20:34:37 <mandie> sunny: ok
07-02-97 20:34:58 <UncleGrim> well we're glad to hear you're okay
07-02-97 20:35:06 <mandie> we even took my grandaugter and went to the basement..thought the tornado was going to actually hit us :(
07-02-97 20:35:09 <MHA1> I guess the cable is out, no? ;>
07-02-97 20:35:10 <trixer> yes...definately
07-02-97 20:35:15 <Giskard> Well, with the demise of ColorWorks, I have a few ideas.
07-02-97 20:35:20 <mandie> mha1: no, it's not
07-02-97 20:35:26 <Giskard> Many people I talked to, didn't seem to know about it.
07-02-97 20:39:06 Connection Closed [20:39]
07-02-97 20:39:20 *** Log Activated #VOICE (F:\TCPIP\GTIRC\#VOICE.log)
07-02-97 20:39:21 *** The topic for #voice is: Promote OS/2 Discussion Group
07-02-97 20:39:21 *** Topic set by SunnyBear on Wed Jul 2 20:00:27 1997
07-02-97 20:39:21 *** Names on #voice: MADlog MADodel0 mandie Sunny @VoiceBot Giskard Mount @trixer @SunnyBear MHA1
07-02-97 20:39:21 *** #voice Mode is (+ )
07-02-97 20:39:23 <Giskard> Contacts for UserGroups, independant magazines (I just found on for Pheonix) that have OS/2 coverage, etc., etc.
07-02-97 20:39:24 <Giskard> Oh yeah, most important, places OUTSIDE of the normal OS/2 circle such as TuCows and Jumbo for shareware, etc.
07-02-97 20:39:24 <Giskard> Thant's my first idea at least. I thik that this is right up Voice's alley and wouldn't be too hard. At least not a rudimentary one.
07-02-97 20:39:28 *** #voice Mode change: +o mandie by SunnyBear
07-02-97 20:39:32 <Giskard> Thoughts?
07-02-97 20:43:04 Connection Closed [20:43]
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07-02-97 21:16:46 *** The topic for #VOICE is: Promote OS/2 Discussion Group
07-02-97 21:16:46 *** Topic set by SunnyBear on Wed Jul 2 19:59:43 1997
07-02-97 21:16:46 *** Names on #voice: MADodel1 Projects Giskard Sunny @NewOrder caveman99 SunTrix2 MADodel0 @mandie @VoiceBot Mount MHA1 @trixer @SunnyBear
07-02-97 21:16:46 *** #voice Mode is (+ )
07-02-97 21:16:55 <mandie> mad: wb :)
07-02-97 21:17:01 <mandie> abrasas: re's :)
07-02-97 21:17:02 <MADodel1> Gee what a lousy night
07-02-97 21:17:13 <mandie> madodel: the net is the pits tonight :(
07-02-97 21:17:16 <trixer> madodel: :(
07-02-97 21:17:17 <SunnyBear> Mad: fun, eh?
07-02-97 21:17:20 <Abraxas> Hi again, all (lost my phone connection)
07-02-97 21:17:26 <Projects> bah! anyone from here who's got my email address in their address book, please make sure it's the new one (stryder and os2hq don't appear to have it)... I'm refusing to pay my bill on that provider, and email will be cut off soon
07-02-97 21:17:39 <MADodel1> *mandie* I can't beleive we have as many people as we have.
07-02-97 21:19:52 <Projects> bah! anyone from here who's got my email address in their address book, please make sure it's the new one (stryder and os2hq don't appear to have it)... I'm refusing to pay my bill on that provider, and email will be cut off soon
07-02-97 21:20:03 *** Log Activated #VOICE (F:\TCPIP\GTIRC\#VOICE.log)
07-02-97 21:20:03 *** The topic for #VOICE is: Promote OS/2 Discussion Group
07-02-97 21:20:03 *** Topic set by SunnyBear on Wed Jul 2 19:59:43 1997
07-02-97 21:20:03 *** Names on #voice: MADodel1 Abraxas Projects Giskard Sunny @NewOrder caveman99 SunTrix2 @mandie @VoiceBot Mount @trixer @SunnyBear
07-02-97 21:20:04 *** #voice Mode is (+ )
07-02-97 21:20:09 <trixer> mad!
07-02-97 21:20:52 <MADodel1> I've got gtirc session hung up, netscape hung up and I keep losong my connect. :-P
07-02-97 21:21:02 <MADodel1> losing even
07-02-97 21:21:25 <mandie> madodel: you're having a hell of a time!
07-02-97 21:21:47 <Projects> someone told me last night that GTirc was doing weird things for him too... could only connect to undernet, but nothing else
07-02-97 21:21:48 <MADodel1> and voicebot ignores me. :-(
07-02-97 21:22:16 <mandie> projects: that's not true :)
07-02-97 21:22:48 <Projects> mandie: that's what Sab0 told me... couldn't get GTirc to work anywhere else, so he dumped it.
07-02-97 21:22:49 <SunnyBear> I just did a trace to MAD.... 23 dag nabbit hops!!!! the net is really messed up..
07-02-97 21:23:03 <trixer> IMHO: develpers need to be aware that hobbes isn't the only site the supports OS/2
07-02-97 21:23:04 <Abraxas> I've got GTIRC connected here, and IRCNET right now...Only problem I have is the phone connection
07-02-97 21:23:17 <MADodel1> *projects* ok that's what I have. :-)
07-02-97 21:23:36 <SunnyBear> Projects: it very likely was the net routing, not the client..
07-02-97 21:23:40 <trixer> there's tucows, filez, shareware, leo and the list goes on
07-02-97 21:23:45 <mandie> I left off the encrypted passwd
07-02-97 21:23:47 <MADodel1> mandie: same password I use for most everything
07-02-97 21:23:59 <Projects> SunnyBear: well, after it hung his system, he dumped it...
07-02-97 21:24:57 <mandie> you weren't using identd when that was put on the bot
07-02-97 21:25:12 <MADodel1> still no go
07-02-97 21:26:06 <MADodel1> Pronews/2 sure is fast
07-02-97 21:26:36 <Giskard> PMINews sure isn't. :-(
07-02-97 21:26:44 <Projects> always has been... 'cept one or two of the first alphas
07-02-97 21:27:34 <Projects> everyone catch young's blunder? :)
07-02-97 21:27:52 <Abraxas> Projects: the July date thing?
07-02-97 21:27:59 <MADodel1> projects: yeah, with announcing the internal beta site?
07-02-97 21:28:03 <mandie> projects: nope, haven't had alot of time to read the news :(
07-02-97 21:28:09 <Projects> Abraxas: no, the internal beta thing :)
07-02-97 21:28:22 <Abraxas> nope, didn't catch that
07-02-97 21:28:36 <Projects> Mad: yup... he was on irc just a few minutes after he posted that, and suddenly realized what he'd done :)
07-02-97 21:28:51 <MADodel1> HeHeHeHe :-)
07-02-97 21:29:01 <Projects> mandie: don't you get the pronews mailing list?
07-02-97 21:29:05 <mandie> mad: try it now
07-02-97 21:29:08 <mandie> projects: nope
07-02-97 21:29:26 <Projects> mandie: that's where it was posted...
07-02-97 21:29:32 <mandie> aha
07-02-97 21:30:38 <Giskard> Well, all. I gotta go soon. Let me know of any places that OS/2 apps can be announced (or should be) and I'll start compiling a list.
07-02-97 21:31:01 <Giskard> Oh yeah, and please give me a SHORT synopsis of what type of app, what type of annoucement (free or $), etc. Thanks.
07-02-97 21:31:11 <Giskard> BTW: Email is lparsons@asu.edu
07-02-97 21:31:18 <mandie> giskard: thx for the great ideas tonight!
07-02-97 21:31:45 <mandie> we need a couple of ppl that is willing to take the time to do this now
07-02-97 21:31:52 <mandie> more than a couple actually
07-02-97 21:31:56 <Giskard> No prob. If all goes well, We;ll have "something" by next week. ;-)
07-02-97 21:32:05 <mandie> giskard: great :)
07-02-97 21:32:11 <trixer> Giskard: you bet :)\
07-02-97 21:32:51 <mandie> giskard: how about you send the webmaster email and tell him what we need?
07-02-97 21:33:06 <mandie> I missed alot...and you seem to be on the right track
07-02-97 21:33:17 <Giskard> ISure. Sounds like a good idea. I'll start thinkng about our requrements now. Thanks.
07-02-97 21:33:39 <mandie> ptackbar@vnet.net
07-02-97 21:33:52 <mandie> giskard: I'll also tell him that you'll be contacting him
07-02-97 21:33:55 <trixer> we will be getting a 9gig HD soon...maybe that's where we need to start
07-02-97 21:33:57 <Projects> Giskard: if you need some help (not too much) there's always me...
07-02-97 21:34:15 <Giskard> Thanks Projects.
07-02-97 21:34:19 * Projects is still pretty busy these days though
07-02-97 21:34:45 <mandie> giskard: are you on any mailing lists?
07-02-97 21:34:48 <trixer> as far as giving developers another place to distribute their apps
07-02-97 21:34:57 <Giskard> Right now, I mostly need places along with the descriptions. Maybe an idea of how to setup a database. All I have right now is IBM Works.
07-02-97 21:35:01 <mandie> we can communicate needs and progress in the gen'l mailing list
07-02-97 21:35:29 <mandie> giskard: david uses a notes server..I'm sure he can arrange that for us
07-02-97 21:35:35 <Giskard> Mandie: Not sure ;-) I'll get on some tonight though.
07-02-97 21:35:41 <mandie> giskard: ok
07-02-97 21:35:54 <Giskard> Any idea what format would be best for him to enter them into the Notes databsae?
07-02-97 21:36:07 <Projects> Giskard: try maxbase... quite nice java database (though IBM Works works just fine)
07-02-97 21:36:08 <trixer> Dbase
07-02-97 21:36:23 <trixer> err DbaseIII
07-02-97 21:36:38 <mandie> giskard: email dboth@ibm.net and tell him what we are planning and he can let you know what's needed
07-02-97 21:36:39 <Giskard> Proj: I have that but havn't yet set it up. I'll give it a look see next week.
07-02-97 21:36:39 <trixer> or IV
07-02-97 21:37:36 <Projects> Giskard: it set up and ran nicely here first time for me (not like some other people I know (/me looks at mandie :->))
07-02-97 21:37:47 <mandie> hehe
07-02-97 21:37:54 <trixer> for any and all who's interested...there's nowa JAVA search engine available for WARP or any platform
07-02-97 21:37:57 <mandie> projects: remotely?
07-02-97 21:38:08 <Projects> mandie: still have to figure out that remote stuff though...
07-02-97 21:38:18 <Projects> mandie: yes, just fine with the author...
07-02-97 21:38:25 <Giskard> Proj: You on Warp 3. or 4>? I am on 3 with FP26 and Java 1.0.2
07-02-97 21:38:37 <mandie> projects: I had problems with it true...and Max put out a fix :P
07-02-97 21:38:54 <Projects> Giskard: warp 4, java 1.1 (I think... whatever the last one is)
07-02-97 21:39:08 <Projects> mandie: yup... good support from Max
07-02-97 21:39:14 <mandie> very good
07-02-97 21:39:34 <mandie> projects: actually he sent me the fix and then put out an update..he's great
07-02-97 21:39:38 <Giskard> OK. Well, I am off now. Good luck to all. And have a nice night. ;-)
07-02-97 21:39:42 <mandie> giskard: thx again!
07-02-97 21:39:51 <Projects> that's something that should be considered for this new campaign... author responsiveness
07-02-97 21:39:56 * mandie finally feels like we have something going!
07-02-97 21:39:58 <Giskard>