| <crimso_> | By the way, Walter. I talked to several people over here regarding the price for a VOICE CD. |
| <crimso_> | The common opinion was that about US$3.50 would be acceptable. |
| <MADeCSPro> | I uploaded it, but it's not html, so it's one big paragraph |
| <MADeCSPro> | http://www.os2voice.org/agenda/08202001.htm |
| <MADeCSPro> | what is a .dwp file? |
| <crimso_> | Describe |
| <crimso_> | The word processor.. |
| <MADeCSPro> | Ah, I don't have that installed at the moment. But I think LWP reads those. Actually it looks like plain text |
| <Walter> | Describe. |
| <mandie> | how about just posting one item on the agenda at a time right here |
| <MADeCSPro> | OK, I saved it as HTML in LWP it is readable now |
| <MADeCSPro> | http://www.os2voice.org/agenda/08202001.htm |
| <Walter> | OK, Let's FINALLY call this meeting to ORDER. |
| <Walter> | Is Sector taking the log? |
| <Sector> | But of course |
| <Walter> | Thank you Sector! |
| <Walter> | 3. The Directors have discussed the possibily of reducing the advertising fees in the Newsletter. |
| <MADeCSPro> | That's sponsorship fees, not advertising, though in the end I suppose it's about the same. |
| <Walter> | I apolozie--sponsorship fees. |
| <crimso_> | Good idea. We may want to have a look at the way OS/2 eZine does it though. |
| <crimso_> | At the moment developers can pay for adversiting by giving licenses of their programs which then can be won by the authors. |
| <Walter> | You may look up the suggest rate of fees on the Agenda at http://www.os2voice.org/agenda/08202001.htm . This URL works on my system using the latest refresh of Netscape 4.61 . |
| <crimso_> | We could use licenses as a giveaway at SpeakUps, for instance. |
| <crimso_> | Hm, looking at the prices I think that we could use a category that is even cheaper. Say, $10. |
| <Walter> | I'll give everyone a few minutes to read the web page. |
| <MADeCSPro> | I had also proposed a free page for small ads for freeware developers and general users seeking other OS/2 users to meet with in their area. |
| <mandie> | I like that idea |
| <Walter> | b. The Chair will entertain a motion to accept the above rates (or a modified version thereof) for sponsorship in the Newsletter. |
| * | Sector motions |
| <Walter> | Is there a second? |
| <MADeCSPro> | second |
| <mandie_> | I motion that we accept the rates as indicated on the agenda with the addition of the free page per Marks specification |
| <Walter> | Discussion. |
| <crimso_> | mandie_: I second that. |
| <Walter> | What motion are we talking about? |
| <crimso_> | Walter: To add the page that Mark suggested. |
| <MADeCSPro> | The one on the rates. judy is asking to add my proposal as well to it |
| <Walter> | I believe there was already a motion on the table when Mandie made hers. |
| <Sector> | The motion on the table had been seconded before mandie_ made her motion |
| <Walter> | Are agree to change Sector |
| <Walter> | 's motion to include Mark's addition? |
| <Sector> | Ok with me |
| <mandie> | addition of the free page per Marks specification |
| <crimso_> | As I said before IMHO an additional, lower rate would be useful. |
| <Walter> | crimson_, do you have any stipulates on the "lower"? |
| <crimso_> | What about $10 per month? I don't think that the average shareware author would like to pay much more. |
| <Walter> | Does any one second the modified motion? |
| <MADeCSPro> | crimso: Our current proposal is $25 for two months. that's pretty close to that |
| <crimso_> | MADeCSPro: That would be ok with me. |
| <crimso_> | I hereby second the modified motion. |
| <Walter> | Is there really a modified motion now? |
| <mandie> | Walter: you asked me to restate the "modified" motion and I did |
| <mandie> | I motion that we accept the rates as indicated on the agenda with the |
| <mandie> | addition of the free page per Marks specification |
| <Walter> | Mandie, As I understand it there is currently (under considersation) a rate of $25 for two months which crimso_ accepted. |
| <Walter> | Are you saying there is also a free page? |
| <MADeCSPro> | Walter: That is what the modified rates call for. $25/month, with 2 months for one for limited time. |
| <MADeCSPro> | Did I not mention the free page earlier? |
| <mandie> | Walter: Mark had suggested a free page for freeware developers and ppl that would like to communicate with others in their area |
| <Walter> | Under what terms will a person be eligible for a free rate? |
| <mandie> | Mad: yes, you did |
| <Walter> | OK, now everything's clear. |
| <Walter> | Any further discussion? |
| <Walter> | Are we ready for the vote? |
| <mandie> | yes |
| <crimso_> | yep |
| <Walter> | All in favour of the modified motion, please type Aye. |
| <mandie> | aye |
| <crimso_> | Aye. |
| <MADeCSPro> | Aye |
| <Walter> | All opposed to the modified motion, please type Nay. |
| <mandie> | there are no nay's |
| <Walter> | I wonder how many are "officially" abstaining. |
| <mandie> | or have just wandered off |
| <crimso_> | yeah |
| <Walter> | I suppose the motion carries, but I'm uncomfortable seeing such |
| <Walter> | an important motion carrying with that many potient abstentees. |
| <Walter> | Motion Carries. |
| <Sector> | Ok ok, Aye |
| <Walter> | If I could vote, my vote would be Aye as well. |
| <Walter> | 5. Next Order of Business. |
| <Walter> | Someone poke me gently if this belongs at the Board level, and not here, but VOICE has receive a letter from Tom Nadeau in which he wants to initiate a "Campaign to Improve Sound Card Support for OS/2" |
| <MADeCSPro> | No, it belongs here, but Tom is not here to tell us why he wants to do this. |
| <Walter> | The question is, Do we as Voice want to be associated with or involved with this? |
| <MADeCSPro> | Honestly I think we have enough on our plate that isn't getting done. |
| <Walter> | OK, so how do we set this up? Invite him as a guest. |
| <Walter> | I completely agree. |
| <MADeCSPro> | If Tom wants to discuss it he can come to a meeting. |
| <Walter> | OK, sounds good to me. |
| <Walter> | Anyone else have any opinions? |
| <crimso_> | Basically it's a good idea IMO. Multimedia is the weakest point of OS/2 and many PCI sound cards either are not supported or have crappy drivers. |
| * | Sector agrees with MADeCSPro |
| <Walter> | And ISA sound cards are becoming extinct, I know. |
| <MADeCSPro> | crimso: but isn't that more a job for Scitech or Netlabs? |
| <crimso_> | But as Mark said, we should try to get other things done first. |
| <mandie> | I agree with Mark |
| <Walter> | Ditto. |
| <mandie> | our focus needs to be on WarpDoctor |
| <Walter> | We can't do everything at once. |
| <crimso_> | MADeCSPro: The problem is resources. |
| <crimso_> | At the moment the only role I can see VOICE play is a supportive one. |
| <Walter> | I'm trying my best to get that message out to anyone who might be interested in VOICE. |
| <Walter> | Next Items of Business. |
| <Walter> | Again, these might belong at the BOD level. |
| <Walter> | 6. Status of WarpStock 2001 Support. |
| <MADeCSPro> | One interjection on Warpstock 2001. Warpstock is now accepting checks in CDN funds - http://www.warpstock.org/2001/registration/registration.html#mail |
| <Walter> | The cheque has been sent to the Treasurer for the booth. We have yet not received notification of receipt. |
| <Walter> | WarpStock Event Team has received notification of our intent to rent/buy a boot. |
| <Walter> | We still desperately need people to man the booth. |
| <crimso_> | And the Warpstock Europe Event Team has likewise received notification of our wish to attend. |
| <Walter> | That I know of Mark, Walter, and I believe Sector have agreed to help out in this area. However, we still need more. |
| <Walter> | Mark, what do you have for us? |
| <Walter> | Maybe I should say what can you add? :-) |
| <MADeCSPro> | Have in regard to what? |
| <Walter> | Our Warpstock 2001 support status. |
| <Sector> | Ummm, couldn't have been me... |
| <MADeCSPro> | Warpstock? nothing other then people have to start registering or there won't be a Warpstock 2002 |
| <Walter> | Item 7. New Business. |
| <Swanee> | Because of circumstances... I may not have a booth but will be trying to get there anyway... If I do... I'll be available to help out. |
| * | mandie has just sent an invitation to the Warpstock team/bod for a speakup |
| <Walter> | I repeat: is there any new business? |
| <mandie> | none here |
| <Swanee> | None here that I know of |
| <mandie> | Walter: are you still with us? |
| <Walter> | Mandie has suggested "that we hold the Warpstock tickets as a door prize when we have the Warpstock speakup." That's fine with me. |
| <Swanee> | I'll second that emotion |
| <Swanee> | I'll also donate something for a prize for that speakup. |
| <mandie> | I think that we will have more people attend the speakup that will actually be attending Warpstock |
| <Walter> | All in favour, type Aye. |
| <Swanee> | AYE |
| <crimso_> | Aye. |
| <mandie> | aye |
| <MADeCSPro> | aye |
| <Ltning> | Did anyone consider that a warpstock ticket may be worthless to a vast amount of the people joining a speakup? |
| <Walter> | Opposed, |
| <Ltning> | (sorry for mixing in..) |
| <mandie> | Ltning: yes, but it can be priceless to those that want to attend but haven't bought a ticket yet :) |
| <Ltning> | Well I still think that for the majority of people even interested in going to warpstock, the ticket itself isn't the obstacle.. |
| <Walter> | Carried. |
| <Ltning> | So while it's a 'nice price', it should have an alternative or something.. Just my 2 cents ;) |
| <MADeCSPro> | Ltning: Unfortunately that is all we have to offer. |
| <Walter> | Meeting adjourned. |
