SpeakUp With Wayne Swanson of PillarSoft From 11/16/98
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:06:14 ] <Abraxas> It's time to call this meeting to order
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:06:48 ] <Abraxas> There are a few things we need to take care of, before we begin tonight's speakup, so please, bear with us
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:08:02 ] <Abraxas> Due to the explosive growth of VOICE, we (the VOICE Board of Directors) have decided that we need to have some semblence of order to our meetings
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:08:07 ] <Abraxas> Therefore, the first 15 minutes will be devoted to VOICE Business
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:08:56 ] <Abraxas> Most of you don't realize that the VOICE Board of Directors (BoD) meest on the SUnday PRIOR to the Monday night meetings
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:08:57 ] <Abraxas> meets
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:09:22 ] <Abraxas> While it is a closed meeting, it is, by no means, secret
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:09:57 ] <Abraxas> Last night, we discussed wuite a few topics, and I'll just briefly touch on them now
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:10:34 ] <Abraxas> The Moderated Mode will be removed, before the speakup begins
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:10:59 ] <Abraxas> One of the topics of discussion is a change in Hosts for the VOICE Website
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:11:25 ] <Abraxas> As soon as the paperwork is complete, Falcon networking (The OS/2 Supersite) will be the new home of VOICE
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:12:03 ] <Abraxas> Falcon has graciously donated the time and space to host, not only the website, but the nailing lists as well
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:12:46 ] <Abraxas> There will be no change noticeable to any users ... the URL http://www.os2voice.org will remain the same
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:13:03 ] <Abraxas> Nest topic is the Speakup Schedule
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:13:39 ] <Abraxas> We have already scheduled Speakups through December, and into January.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:13:40 ] <Abraxas> Sometimes. 3 a month
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:14:02 ] <Abraxas> SUndial Systems is scheduled for the 1sy Monday of every-other month, beginning in December
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:14:33 ] <Abraxas> You can get an updated schedule at the VOICE Website, by clicking on the "Events Calendar" link
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:14:48 ] <Abraxas> Nest topic
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:14:49 ] <Abraxas> Next, even
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:16:18 ] <Abraxas> Oh ... Speakups .... we are planning a Speakup, in early 1999, on REXX, and are working with Mike Cowlishaw (the "Father" of REXX) to participate. This will likely be a Special Weekend (Saturday or Sunday)session, so stay tuned for details
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:16:59 ] <Abraxas> We are also currently working with Trevor Smith on his idea of "Guerilla Tech Support" (in this months issue of OS/2 EZine)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:17:12 ] <Abraxas> More on that as details become available
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:18:09 ] <Abraxas> Last item is ad space in EA (Extended Attributes) magazine (the last of the English "print" OS/2 zines).
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:19:11 ] <Abraxas> We are also working on revising the Bylaws of VOICE, and any and all changes proposed will be submitted to the membership for a vote (via the email@example.com mailing list)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:19:45 ] <Abraxas> All VOICE members will recieve a synopsis (edited logfile) of the VOICE BoD meetings, in the mailing list
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:21:13 ] <Abraxas> Now, I'd like to Introduce peter Lazenby (Projects) for a Treasury report
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:21:39 ] <Projects> First of all, at this time last year, we only had 14 members...
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:21:59 ] <Projects> As of 4:45pm pacific time, we're up to 105
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:22:23 ] <Projects> our treasury currently sits at $2234.52 USD
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:23:03 ] <Projects> and that doesn't included 20 or so new members who signed up at Warpstock, as I haven't yet recieved the applications/funds
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:24:59 ] <Abraxas> Now, I'll intorduce Judy (our Liason Officer) ... the person most responsible for all these wonderful guest speakers
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:25:13 ] <Judy> hi everyone and thanks for coming :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:25:24 ] <Judy> tonight we have our Vice President, Wayne Swanson, as a guest speaker
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:25:40 ] <Judy> he will be presenting his line of products from Pillarsoft
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:25:53 ] <Judy> I will unmod the channel now and we can get the show on the road :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:26:14 ] <Judy> oh...if anyone has a request for specific topics/speakers..please email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:26:22 ] <Swanee> Shall I intro myself?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:26:32 ] <Judy> yes..tell us a bit about YOU
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:26:51 ] <Swanee> I have some prepared stuff, I hope it doesn't get me bounced
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:26:53 ] <Swanee> I'm Wayne Swanson and I represent PillarSoft. We develop WarpZip, ShowTime/2 and the Enhanced E Editors. WarpZip has just finished it's beta cycle and is now generally available.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:27:02 ] <Swanee> WarpZip the newest entry in the archive manager market for OS/2. It boasts many user interface improvements over it's rivals. It is more than an archive viewer/unzipper. WarpZip has more of a file manager feel to it so you can work with your zip files in terms of organizing as well as viewing etc. Drag and drop is implemented throughout and WarpZip works with your OS/2 system, not separate.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:27:15 ] <Swanee> I have been told (brag mode on) that WarpZip has a truely stunning interface. See what others have said about WarpZip at: http://fm-net.com/pillarsoft/WZComment.html
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:27:42 ] <Swanee> hehe, that's all the advertising I have. Ready for anything now. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:28:21 ] <Confed2> Nice cut-n-Paste!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:28:26 ] <Projects> Swanee: Ok, I have been a long time registered user of RPF Zip Control (several years now)... does WarpZip offer any advantages?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:29:04 ] <Swanee> Confed2: I knew you'd appreciate it. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:29:36 ] <seg> why do I need to zip things up with disk space so cheap?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:29:36 ] <Swanee> Projects: Oh baby! Does it ever... :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:29:37 ] <Projects> Swanee: such as? :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:29:40 ] <Swanee> Projects: Grep files, the search facilities are next to non for archivers.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:31:53 ] <Swanee> Yesterday I need a file from a server setup and didn't know where to find it on the cd. Warpzip found it in about 3 minutes
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:31:57 ] <Judy> seg: for local you're correct..but a zip file sure d/l and u/l's alot faster :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:31:57 ] <Projects> Swanee: will I be able to run exectuables from within the .zip itself (assuming of couse they don't need extra .dll's and stuff)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:31:57 ] <Swanee> There is much more but I can't think off the top if my head... I'll get you more :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:31:57 ] <seg> I can see the utility for archive cds and for ul/dl (although with a cable modem it's not
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:31:57 ] <seg> so important. :-) is there an interfact to the FTP apis?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:31:58 ] <Judy> seg: what about those that don't have a cable modem and want to d/l your file?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:31:58 ] <Swanee> seg: I have a ton of space but it's dissappearing. WarpZip will mainly help you with your downloaded files, organizing and installing
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:32:35 ] <Confed2> Ok, maybe we can wade through the questions...............What does WarpZip give us over say Object Desktop and it's intergration with the desktop?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:32:54 ] <Swanee> Projects: There is a run button that lets you do installs and a clean up button that cleans AND destroys the objects when you're done
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:33:23 ] <Projects> Swanee: cool!... I'm just about to install the demo now :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:34:37 ] <Swanee> When any file is unzipped, OS/2 has track of it's object. Many programs will delete the file but not the object. That's why Checkini from Henk Kelder is so important
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:34:38 ] <seg> thanks for the info. ta.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:35:48 ] <freiheit> Swanee, as a newbie to WarpZip, I'd like to know what archive file formats it recognizes (zip? rar? tar? gtz? lha?).
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:36:02 ] <Swanee> WarpZip destorys the object too. The way WZ does some viewings, the file isn't even created. WZ just puts it in memory to view it. No object to destroy
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:36:16 ] <DaBull> why checkini, isn't UNIMAINT.EXE just as critical? :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:36:49 ] <Confed2> I thought UniMaint had problems with Warpv4
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:37:06 ] <DaBull> works for me :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:37:14 ] <Swanee> freiheit: WZ does zip files and OS/2 packed files. The packed files don't have a particular extension. WZ reads the file format itself and decides if it is a packed file.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:37:42 ] <freiheit> Swanee, by packed files do you mean the ones from, say, the Warp 3 diskette install?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:37:49 ] <Swanee> DaBull: Yes, I just haven't tried Unimaint but it does the same great work
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:38:38 ] <Swanee> freiheit: Yes, next time you're looking for the dspres.dll where will you find it? WZ will search the packed files for you
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:38:48 ] <DaBull> Swanee are there any compatability issues with pkunzip2 that we need to be aware of... and if not will it utilize all of its switches
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:38:56 ] <Swanee> I'm using WZ for WarpZip to save some typing ")
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:39:00 ] <Swanee> :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:39:36 ] <Confed2> So, you mean WarpZip can read the crazy format that IBM uses for the compressed files on the CD?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:40:04 ] <Swanee> DaBull: It uses the InfoZip Unzip dll. I beleive they are very compatible
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:40:50 ] <DaBull> k
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:41:10 ] <Swanee> Confed2: Yes, it will search for them or you can drop files onto it and it will through out the nonzip or non-packed files and only open those two types
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:41:56 ] <Swanee> OS/2 packed files don't give any other information than their names though so you can't see their size info etc
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:42:32 ] <Swanee> You can view them though, (to read a readme or play a wav.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:43:10 ] <Swanee> Is that it? Ok, goodnight! :-)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:43:16 ] <Swanee> haha
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:43:17 ] <freiheit> heheh
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:43:30 ] <freiheit> What about nested zip files?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:43:40 ] <Confed2> OK, say I want to revert back to the old IBM1S506 driver, will it find that for me and uncompress it?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:43:52 ] <freiheit> Can WarpZip be used to read a readme within a zip file which is itself within a zip file?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:44:03 ] <Swanee> Double clicking an .inf or a .hlp file will automatically open it.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:44:53 ] <Confed2> Freheit: YES, that was one that Wayne showed me perfectly with his tutorial that is included with the demo
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:45:29 ] <Arkay> Swanee: what tools were used to develop WarpZip?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:45:57 ] <Swanee> freiheit: Try the "sample.zip" file that comes with WZ. dblclick on everthing in it and read each file that opens.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:46:18 ] <Swanee> That will show you alot of the things you can do with it.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:46:27 ] <freiheit> Excellent.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:46:57 ] <Swanee> Arkay: WZ was done with VisPro/Rexx. It's a great development tool from my perspective.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:47:04 ] <Confed2> Swanee: You should make sure about that with everyone, that is a GOOD example!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:47:48 ] <Swanee> Thanks Thom. It seemed to me to be the best way to show some of the utility of WZ
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:47:58 ] <madodel> Heheheh, I couldn't get the OS5 download file to self-extract. Kept giving a pkzip error. I just tried it in WarpZip and the damn thing works. So it reads PKZip self extracting files.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:48:25 ] <freiheit> Swanee, what about creating a new zip file? Is the same interface used to create as to extract? I'm still using (don't laugh) ZipMeister and loathe the way creating a new zip file is done in it.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:48:28 ] <madodel> that's SO5 byBTW
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:48:35 ] <Confed2> I got the registered version of Pkunzip/2.........Seems to work pretty good
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:48:49 ] <DaBull> madodel did you type "FILENAME /directories" ?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:49:21 ] <madodel> DaBull: I was through that with LongStaff. Yes I did
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:49:22 ] <Projects> well... I'm impressed with WarpZip so far...
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:49:25 ] <madodel> It just wouldn't work
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:49:26 ] <DaBull> k, just aksing :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:49:38 ] <Judy> DaBull: it worked here
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:49:47 ] <Swanee> freiheit: Set your target dir from the directory container, Click "NEW" and then d&d files or use the dir container to find them
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:49:53 ] <DaBull> me too, prolly had corrupted file
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:49:55 ] <madodel> It was frustrating as hell after a 77 Meg D/L
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:50:27 ] <DaBull> i think there's a pkzipfix switch but don't know what it is :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:51:05 ] <DaBull> ,... i could look it up for you but the point is now moot :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:51:35 ] <freiheit> Swanee, one last point on that ... can I drag a file from within one existing .zip and drop it right into my new .zip?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:52:11 ] <freiheit> Or is there some intermediate step (like drop to desktop, then drag to new .zip)?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:52:57 ] <Swanee> freiheit: Anything you can drop on WZ will either get added, created new, or opened. Your choice.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:52:58 ] <Arkay> Swanee: (back to development) aren't there two versions of Vispro Rexx, a bronze and a gold? Which was used?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:53:42 ] <Projects> Swanee: you mean I can drag a bunch of objects onto warpzip and it'll create a .zip file?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:53:46 ] <Swanee> Arkay: I have both. It was Gold though. I had Bronze for 2 weeks and realized I need ed to upgrade
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:54:01 ] <Swanee> Projects: In a word? Yep
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:54:24 ] <Projects> Swanee: that's sold me then :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:54:29 ] <freiheit> Nice way to create a .zip backup of an entire drive. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:55:33 ] <Swanee> Projects: You'll get a choice. Add to the zip, create a new one, open it or if they are archives, open the first and queue the rest
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:56:21 ] <Swanee> freiheit: Yes, it's easy but a drive takes awhile. I'd like to add a progress indicater if I can tell how for the job has to go.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:56:30 ] <Confed2> Swanee: One the Entire drive idea.............Will WZ include all files so that a CLONE can be made of the HDD ? Including system files?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:57:08 ] <Projects> Swanee: hmm... just got an error doing that...
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:57:15 ] <Swanee> Confed2: There are params in the settings notebook that you need to set for hidden/system etc.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:57:39 ] <Swanee> Projects: What did you do?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:58:05 ] <Projects> Swanee: dragged a bunch of files to the warpzip desktop object
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:58:20 ] <Swanee> Projects: Do you have the path to "zip.exe" set in the settings notebook?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:58:25 ] <DaBull> Swanee yeah speaking of attributes,... will WZ recognize a file -s -h without having to attrib first and allow me to zip/unzip it
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:58:31 ] <Arkay> Sorry, gotta go. I'll have to check out the rest when it's posted to the Web Site.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:58:41 ] <Judy> Arkay: thx for coming :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:58:46 ] <Arkay> Great stuff, Swanee.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:59:03 ] <Projects> Swanee: oops... but zip.exe's in my system path. That not good enough?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:59:08 ] <Swanee> thanks Arkay DaBull I'm getting you next
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 17:59:43 ] <Swanee> DaBull: What exactly do you mean?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:00:27 ] <DaBull> well lets say i have a dir that has files that are -h or -s, will WZ first of all view them and then can i zip them
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:00:41 ] <Swanee> Projects: Drop files on the archive viewing window to add or create. And yes, add "Zip.exe" to the settings paths
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:02:12 ] <Swanee> DaBull: hmmm... Never tried before. You mean like the files in the root of the c drive perhaps?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:02:26 ] <DaBull> `xactly
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:03:21 ] <Swanee> DaBull: It sees them anyways... lemme see
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:03:29 ] <DaBull> that's one of the things i like about DOS XTGOLD,.. i can view any file on hdd thats not longfile name of course,.. and then mark (tag) it for compression
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:03:36 ] <DaBull> kewl
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:04:56 ] <Swanee> DaBull: Yep, just did it on my root. be sure to set the system/hidden params in the settings though
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:05:55 ] <DaBull> k,... dats what i need,.. i'll be taken a look at your product! :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:06:07 ] <Swanee> DaBull: You can drop as many different files in the "Add files" window as you want from anywhere on your drives or use the dir container
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:06:23 ] <DaBull> EXCELLENT
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:06:36 ] <madodel> Swanee: how does the AV checking work? Do I need a special AV package?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:07:47 ] <Swanee> It is set up to work with IBM AV or McAfee's but you can try anything. There is a parameter window for whatever you want to use.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:08:37 ] <Swanee> If you hav one of the 2 I mentioned. Just click a button after choosing the program and the params will be set up automatically
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:08:42 ] <Confed2> Since I have a registered version of PkZip, can I still use my Authentication Stamp with WZ
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:09:37 ] <Swanee> Confed2: I'm not sure about that. WZ uses Infozip so far but we *may* be adding support for pk
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:10:37 ] <Swanee> We actually have some support for other archive formats in the code but stuck with Infozip until we're satisfied that all is well.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:11:11 ] <Projects> that answers my next question :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:11:24 ] <freiheit> Swanee. by "other archive formats" are you referring to tar and rar and ... ?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:11:35 ] <freiheit> or "other forms of .zip"?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:11:36 ] <Swanee> I mean the other code isn't fleshed out and doesn't appear yet
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:12:21 ] <DaBull> Swanee please ad pkzip authen, i too am reg user :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:12:56 ] <Swanee> freiheit: LHA, ARC, ummm... I can't remember... Most of them are rarely used so we concentrated on zip and unpack
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:13:28 ] <DaBull> lha and arc are deader than os/2, aren't they? :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:13:34 ] <Confed2> the support for other archives...........does it have a window for optional parameters so that we can put in our command for the AV stamp?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:13:43 ] <Swanee> DaBull & Confed2 I really need to add pk usability to it but just haven't found the time. :(
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:14:02 ] <Confed2> Arc is :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:14:04 ] <Swanee> Hopefully I will find time this winter
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:14:04 ] <DaBull> k, well keep it on the "to do" lsit
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:14:24 ] <Confed2> I'll make sure he does DaBull! LOLOLOL
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:14:39 ] <DaBull> hehe
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:14:50 ] <Swanee> I'd better add that now before I forget. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:15:22 ] <Confed2> Swanee: Since we have pretty much gotten all the WZ done...........How about some other stuff that Pillarsoft is working?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:15:52 ] <Confed2> or is this just WZ's time?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:16:25 ] <Swanee> The Enhanced E will be the next updated app and ShowTime/2 is going to get morphed over time.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:17:04 ] <Projects> I know this is off topic, but ShowTime/2?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:17:11 ] <Confed2> Morphed? Now that is a program that I really like.................Makes Centari Computers logos look nice rotation on the Desktop :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:17:17 ] <freiheit> OS/2 could use a good morphing package...oh, that's not what you meant. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:17:40 ] <Confed2> There's your lead Swanee :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:18:22 ] <Swanee> Projects: It's a background changer/slideshow viewer that will become a presentation tool. I used it at WarpStock to run slides while I was away. (which was all the time)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:18:46 ] <Confed2> yea it was LOLOLOL
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:18:51 ] <KoolAde2> well 4:30am comes early will check out the log when its up , I want to thank Swanee for such a insiteful list of things on WZ, thanks again to #voice for having this forum tonight
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:19:01 ] <Projects> Swanee: ah... Ok, thanks
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:19:06 ] <Swanee> Confed2: Don't tattle on me. :-)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:19:20 ] <Swanee> Nite KoolAde2
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:19:24 ] <freiheit> KoolAde2, thanks for coming. G'night.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:19:29 ] <Abraxas> KoolAde2 It was our pleasure :-)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:23:27 ] <Swanee> Sorry, I've got about 4 windows open and need to reply to them 1 at a time. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:23:44 ] <freiheit> We understand. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:24:25 ] * Projects thought the speakup was in *this* window... which window do I need to look for? :-)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:24:50 ] <Abraxas> It's "Trivia Time"
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:24:58 ] <freiheit> [fanfare]
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:25:23 ] <DaBull> Windows? I thought we were discussing os/2 apps :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:25:24 ] <Abraxas> Swanee will ask a question .... first person to respond (in this channel) wins a copy of WarpZip
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:25:24 ] <Confed2> Hold on Abraxas, let Swanee catch up
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:25:24 ] <Confed2> Ok, that kool then
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:25:39 ] <freiheit> First to correctly respond.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:25:42 ] <freiheit> :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:25:59 ] <Abraxas> As always, VOICE BoD members are NOT eligible
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:04 ] <Abraxas> freiheit yes ... thanks
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:04 ] <DaBull> ding
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:04 ] <DaBull> k
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:05 ] <DaBull> i win
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:21 ] <Confed2> LOLOLOLOL
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:27 ] <Projects> heh
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:30 ] <Judy> you forgot to say...Who was
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:43 ] <Confed2> Swanee has to ask the question though
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:47 ] <Confed2> Good one Judy!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:26:58 ] <DaBull> hurry i'm burning my steak! :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:27:01 ] <Swanee> OK, I'm back
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:27:27 ] <Confed2> Yea, I need sudsstance too :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:27:44 ] <DaBull> amazing how the leeches come out when the hear the word FREE :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:00 ] <Swanee> OK the first correct answer on my moniter recieves a copy of WarpZip
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:11 ] <Swanee> On MY moniter
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:16 ] <Confed2> Hey, I was BBS sysop for 7yrs, I need to get some back :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:17 ] <Swanee> monitor
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:19 ] <DaBull> What is a question!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:36 ] <Swanee> Here we go...
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:49 ] <Swanee> What 4 annual golf tournaments are known as the "Majors"
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:49 ] <Projects> Confed2: me too! :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:51 ] <DaBull> think i'll dcc chat with you then
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:51 ] <DaBull> :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:28:58 ] <Confed2> OH A GOLF QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:29:00 ] <DaBull> HaHAhaHAHa!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:29:06 ] <Swanee> Weird question for computer people
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:29:07 ] <Swanee> :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:29:12 ] <DaBull> hey that's a white kinda thing, how about us black dudes!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:29:13 ] <DaBull> HaHAhaHAHa!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:29:42 ] <Swanee> Hey who's got it? All listed correctly on one entry
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:29:45 ] <Swanee> dum de dum...
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:29:45 ] <Confed2> Masters, Firestone, Pebble Beach, British Open
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:29:48 ] <Judy> dabull: we're not prejudice..you can answer :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:30:04 ] <Swanee> Confed2: 2 of 4
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:30:22 ] <Confed2> hawian open ???? LOLOL
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:30:48 ] <Swanee> As listed in the mason jar on my front step. Sealed by Funk & Wagnell
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:30:49 ] <Projects> Links/2?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:30:56 ] <Swanee> Projects: LOL!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:31:12 ] <Confed2> Mauii?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:31:36 ] <Swanee> Confed2 had 2 out of the 4. Can someone put 2 more correct ones with it?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:31:37 ] <Confed2> I just got my Matrox............I knew I should have ordered that Links for OS/2!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:31:57 ] <Confed2> Bob Hope Classic?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:32:04 ] <Swanee> Confed2: nada
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:32:29 ] <Confed2> The PillarSoft Open................I win 2 copies for that one! LOL
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:32:44 ] <DaBull> us open us masters the open uspga
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:32:53 ] <DaBull> there
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:32:58 ] <Swanee> HAHAHA, we might really have one of them... :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:33:07 ] <freiheit> The O.J. Simpson Real Killer Finding Open?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:33:09 ] <freiheit> Oh, sorry. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:33:21 ] <Confed2> I'm there............Just for the FUN! Golf.........YUK!!!!!!!!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:33:32 ] * Projects smacks freiheit
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:33:42 ] <Swanee> DaBull: 3 of 4, btw separate with commas
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:33:58 ] <Confed2> Ok, Us Open
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:34:21 ] <Confed2> LOLOLOl French Open?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:34:35 ] <Swanee> all four in an answer, separated by commas...
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:35:01 ] <Confed2> Masters, US Open, British Open, French Open?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:35:03 ] <DaBull> Masters, U.S. Open, British Open and PGA Championship
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:35:25 ] <Swanee> DaBull!!!!! that's CORRECT!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:35:37 ] <freiheit> ding ding ding ding ding
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:35:46 ] <DaBull> HaHAhaHAHa! the BLACK D00d wins
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:35:48 ] <Swanee> You're the next contestant on "I'm always right!"
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:35:51 ] <Abraxas> We have a winner :-)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:35:57 ] <Confed2> Swanee really enjoyed that wayyyyyyyy To much!!!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:35:59 ] <DaBull> HaHAhaHAHa!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:01 ] <freiheit> Not only have you won a copy of WarpZip, but you've also won our home game!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:18 ] <Swanee> Congrats DaBull! Confed2, you wer sooo close.
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:25 ] <Abraxas> dON, tell him what he's won!!!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:27 ] <freiheit> (Vanna White not included)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:28 ] <Swanee> freiheit: LOL
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:37 ] <Swanee> Abraxas: LOL!!!!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:47 ] <Confed2> Vanna is OLD! Claudia!!!!!!!!!!!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:48 ] <Judy> DaBull: congrats :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:56 ] <Swanee> Don Pardough!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:36:56 ] <freiheit> Oh, sorry Confed2. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:38:45 ] <freiheit> Alright, well I think I'd better go finish up this StarOffice 5 download and then snag the demo of WarpZip and try it out. :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:34 ] <Swanee> Don Par-dough!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:35 ] <DaBull> wait i got a golf joke,... what did the golfer say to the minority,.... please don't eat the greens!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:36 ] <Judy> LOL
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:36 ] <Projects> bah! what good is it then?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:36 ] <Swanee> DaBull: lol
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:36 ] <DaBull> HaHAhaHAHa!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:36 ] <Confed2> ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh :) Bad.................
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:37 ] <Swanee> That was fun, I'm exhausted from that high energy contest!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:37 ] <DaBull> search engines are such a wonderful thing when you know how to use them folks!!!!!!!1
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:37 ] <Swanee> DaBull: Smart guy!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:37 ] <Confed2> DaBull: Don't get Wayne Started with those..........you might not get registered :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:37 ] <DaBull> heheheeh
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:37 ] <Confed2> Hey................That's cheating, I got 3 without using that
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:37 ] <DaBull> k, i gotta go finish cookin. where do i sign
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:37 ] <Confed2> :):):)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:37 ] <DaBull> sounds like a pp
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:38 ] <DaBull> [personal problem] :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:38 ] <Confed2> That was meant as a JOKE!!!!!! Don't anyone get mad at me :)
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:46 ] <Swanee> DaBull: Can you fire an email off to me at email@example.com Give me your name, address etc for our database. OK?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:39:53 ] <Confed2> It was a smart Idea though
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:40:03 ] <DaBull> done
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:40:04 ] <Swanee> DaBull I'll get you set up tonight!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:40:12 ] <DaBull> k
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:40:13 ] <Confed2> The Power of the Internet!
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:41:23 ] <Swanee> BTW: Confed2 is from Centari Computers. They will be preloading WarpZip on their new machines so take a peek at Centari when you're looking for a new system
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:41:35 ] <freiheit> URL?
[ 11-16-98 ] [ 18:41:48 ] <Confed2> http://pages.sssnet.com/Confed2